{"id":1642,"date":"2017-09-06T19:23:22","date_gmt":"2017-09-07T02:23:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/apgperformance.com\/?p=1642"},"modified":"2017-11-25T23:50:45","modified_gmt":"2017-11-26T07:50:45","slug":"product-spotlight-apg-performance-brake-install","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/apgperformance.com\/?p=1642","title":{"rendered":"PRODUCT SPOTLIGHT: APG PERFORMANCE BRAKE INSTALL"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Product Spotlight: APG Performance Brake Install<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n

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This past weekend I was able to knock out a lot of work on the car.\u00a0 For whatever reason I had this idea in my head that the rest of the build would be smooth sailing after the new motor setup got tuned; boy was I wrong.\u00a0 Getting the motor running properly was a huge milestone, but it far from marked the completion of the build.\u00a0 There is still much to do, and among them was to replace the overweight front calipers with a reliable, lightweight alternative \u2013 APG Performance answered that call.<\/p>\n

I first learned of APG from Shinobu Matayoshi\u2019s time attack FD.\u00a0 I had ran into him at Suzuka and noticed that the calipers on his car were not among the commonly seen variety.\u00a0 When I got back home I looked into them a little more with little luck.\u00a0 I eventually ended up contacting Matayoshi a couple months later to talk about his car, and ended up getting contact information for reps at APG.\u00a0 Long story short, I was able to meet with Howard, who runs marketing for APG, while he was here in the states for work.\u00a0 We got together at my shop and discussed a few things in regards to braking.\u00a0 I explained to him that I wasn\u2019t very disappointed in the way the OE Legend calipers worked for me (aside from them being single piston),\u00a0 noting that the massive weight was my main concern.\u00a0 After hearing that the smaller variation of their 6-pot caliper weighed in at just 7 pounds with pads, I was pretty sold.\u00a0 Single piston Legend calipers are just over 14 pounds loaded \u2013 I\u2019d be cutting that weight in half.\u00a0 Not to mention that it fits a 304mm rotor, which is just a tad larger than the 11.1\u2033 rotors I had been using.\u00a0 I would be able to address the weight issue, and get a more even and consistent brake feel at the same time.\u00a0 We settled on the setup, and a few weeks later Howard was able to deliver them to the shop before he leaves back to Japan and Taiwan later this week.\u00a0 I thought I\u2019d do an install post for both my benefit of documenting the comparison, and a little how-to if anyone enthusiasts out there have yet to tackle their brakes.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/span>The next day, a small bout of rain during the late afternoon brought a nice moment of reprieve from the horrendous heat wave we\u2019ve had this week in California.\u00a0 I wasn\u2019t going to get a better break in working conditions, so I figured I\u2019d start disassembling my current brakes.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/span>I\u2019m sure the majority of people reading this have swapped brake pads, rebuilt calipers, and replaced rotors and some point in time.\u00a0 For that reason, I\u2019ll do my best to be concise in instruction for those that haven\u2019t and our interested \u2013 so if I skip anything I apologize, but feel free to contact me with any questions you have, product or installation wise.\u00a0 This is the old setup I had on the Civic; Legend single piston calipers, Project Mu HC+ pads, and blank rotors (the setup is for sale by the way).\u00a0 For all intents and purposes this was a solid setup, but in my quest to shed as much weight as possible it just wasn\u2019t going to cut it anymore.<\/p>\n

Anyway, it\u2019s very easy to remove calipers on Civics.\u00a0 There\u2019s just two 17mm bolts that hold the assembly to the knuckle.\u00a0 Remove them, along with the 10mm brake line and you can take the whole caliper off with little effort.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/span>With the old caliper off, I was able to take some comparison shots for my own records. Like I stated previously, the new APG calipers weigh 50% less than the OE cast ones.\u00a0 At just 7 pounds, just holding them in my hand the difference was staggering.\u00a0 Comparatively the two aren\u2019t sized all that differently, with the APG calipers being just a bit more narrow and longer to accommodate the 6 pistons.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/span>Here you can see the difference in length a bit better.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/span>With the caliper off, you can go ahead and remove the rotor.\u00a0 Some of you may have the small set screws (2) that help adhere the rotor to the hub.\u00a0 You\u2019ll need an impact driver to remove those if you still utilize them \u2013 I don\u2019t.\u00a0 If you don\u2019t have one, I think Autozone rents them, or you can just buy one; they aren\u2019t that expensive and it\u2019s a nice tool to have.<\/p>\n

The OE blank rotor I was using is an 11.1\u2033 and the new APG slotted rotor is a 304mm (roughly 12\u2033).\u00a0 It\u2019s actually a really good size for this particular application.\u00a0 It\u2019s never a good idea to exceed the braking threshold for the tire you\u2019re using and the same thing generally goes across all chassis\u2019.\u00a0 With how light my car is, and the tire size I plan to use, I would probably never run anything larger than a 304mm rotor.\u00a0 The APG rotors are a two piece design, which brings many advantages.\u00a0 For one they are roughly 15% lighter than the solid counterpart (depending on what you\u2019re replacing), and they dissipate heat much more efficiently.\u00a0 When the time comes to replace the rotors, just the ring can be replaced and the hat\u2019s can be reused.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/span>Here is a shot of my hub and knuckle sans any braking components.\u00a0 Now is a good time to inspect the components without anything impeding your vision.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/span>It\u2019s also a good time to stop and take a break for the night because you\u2019ve been working on the car for the past 8 hours.\u00a0 Or in my case, because you still need to hammer the fender well in to accommodate a bigger tire.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/span>Fast forward to Monday evening.\u00a0 With the old brakes off and stored, I cleaned the table and laid out all the components of the new kit.\u00a0 Each APG kit is truly all-inclusive.\u00a0 Aside from brake fluid (and tools of course), there isn\u2019t anything extra that you\u2019ll need for the install.\u00a0 Now is a good time to note that everything fit like a glove.\u00a0 Machining for the parts was spot on for the application.<\/p>\n

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\"\"<\/a><\/span>Since I didn\u2019t have the set screws, I just screwed a lug nut on one of the studs to hold the rotor in place while installing.\u00a0 I use brake cleaner to clean off the rotors before putting the calipers back on as a rule of thumb.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/span>Before installing the new calipers, it\u2019s necessary to fit the brackets.\u00a0 This allows brake companies to make a universal caliper design that can be fitted to many different applications.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/span>With the supplied hardware and threadlocker (which is basically Loctite Red).\u00a0 Don\u2019t forgo the use of thread lock \u2013 the last thing you want is your caliper to come loose on your drive to the track, at the track, or driving home.\u00a0 I can speak from personal experience on this.\u00a0 I had the top caliper bolt loosen on track a few years ago, and on the drive home, back completely out and plop down onto my inner barrel.\u00a0 I sheared off all my wheel weights, and put a nice gauge on the inside of the wheel \u2013 but it could have been a lot worse.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/span>With the bracket in place (it only lines up one way), just slide the caliper over the rotor and bolt it onto the knuckle.\u00a0 Already looking better.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/span>The kit comes with new Teflon SS lines, but I had no reason to change as my Earls lines were still good, and I had already modified the holding tab to fit my knuckles.\u00a0 Make sure you\u2019re utilizing the two crush washers on the banjo fitting leading to the caliper.\u00a0 Once you have both sides fitted, give the steering wheel a turn from lock to lock and make sure the brake line isn\u2019t binding or being pulled anywhere.\u00a0 The arrow on the caliper indicates the direction of rotor movement, and each rotor is denoted as right or left with direction as well.\u00a0 It\u2019s important to ensure that each part matches the correct movement for them to function properly.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/span>Quite possibly the easiest thing I\u2019ve installed on the car as of yet, and easily one of the best looking.<\/p>\n

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\"\"<\/a><\/span>After you properly bleed the entire brake system, you\u2019ll want to bed the brakes accordingly.\u00a0 After cruising around at slow speeds to ensure everything is installed correctly, you\u2019ll want to build up some heat in the system.\u00a0 When I bed new pads and rotors, I usually do a few moderate stops or slowdowns from 40 or 50 mph.\u00a0 The point is to gradually build up heat over time, allow the rotors to cool, and repeat.\u00a0 If you just go nuts right of the bat and slam on the brakes, the excessive, rapid heating can cause warped rotors or uneven transfer.\u00a0 After you\u2019ve done 4 or 5 gradual braking stops, you can do a few hard stops from freeway speeds.\u00a0 There are a ton of different variations to this, but just give it some time before you hit the track.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/span>It\u2019s no a bad idea to jack the car up after this process and inspect the components for any discrepancies or leaks.<\/p>\n

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I\u2019m not used to installs going this smoothly on my car.\u00a0 I gotta say it was a nice surprise.\u00a0 I\u2019m looking forward to testing them out during the cars first shakedown \u2013 which hopefully comes sooner than later<\/p>\n

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